Let’s forget everything and concentrate on one aspect: luckyness.

Ali (and Gabe in the past) and I think every Christian clearly says that in your “relationship” there is NO WAY for a person to reach God. Only God can reach the person.

So there is NOTHING I could do to reach god. Even simply “accepting him” is an act towards, and you say that I can’t reach him

How coudl I reach God, Christ or build this “relationship” if I can’t do ANYTHING?

Another aspect: how can a person who’s NOT in a Christian nation being saved? Due to this “one-way” and “here only” method, a person in Africa will perish in Hell, since he has no chance to know your god.

Am I correct?

So if I wanted to become Christian, how can I, since I can’t reach him?

God said, “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.” (Hebrews 9:22) I can’t shed my own blood to pay for my sins (and be forgiven) because the blood shed has to come from a perfect sacrifice. Since I have sinned, I am not perfect, so my blood cannot pay the penalty for my sin.

Only the blood of Jesus can pay for my sin because Jesus is the only person who is perfect and never sinned. That’s why Jesus shed His blood on the cross. His blood satisfied God’s requirement for cleansing and forgiveness.

Since God is holy and perfect, sin cannot abide with Him. He cannot allow sin to enter heaven. Since I have sinned, I cannot go to heaven until I have been forgiven and cleansed. When I realized that Jesus shed His blood so that I could be forgiven and cleansed of my sin, I accepted the gift of cleansing that He offered to me (and everyone else). Now that I am cleansed by Christ’s blood, my spirit can enter heaven when I die.

So, it’s not that God doesn’t want to forgive us, and it’s not that He wants us to pay for our sins and the sins of our forefathers. God knew we would never be able to pay for our sins, so He sent Jesus to pay for them in our place.

And to answer a question in another post: No, it is not luck that decides who gets to be a Christian (or forgiveness or cleansing or salvation–whatever you want to call it). Salvation is open to everyone. “He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9)

God loves you so much, He doesn’t want to spend eternity without you. He would rather send His Son to shed His blood, so that you can live with Him forever. He doesn’t want anyone to be eternally separated from Him.

So the question should not be, “Why would God allow me to be born with sin?” It should be, “What am I going to do with my sin?” Will I allow my sin to separate me from God forever, or will I accept God’s forgiveness so I can be with God for eternity?

@LisaH: 6.000 years after Adam and Eve and we haven’t YET payed or fault?
Imagine you son stole a biscuit while you told him not to do it. Your all-loving all-caring reaction is to put him out of house, disown him and all of his following family?
Or, much worse: you born and your grandfather ‘hates’ you because of something that your father did.

Let’s put this in another way:
I strongly personally refuse a God that injects me in this world “with an original sin”, and I have to “repent” all my life because of something someone did 6.000 years ago (of course, biblically speaking) and I was never connected to. If life is a “present” from God, then in your point of view is like giving a present to someone and asking him to pay the money for it.

I know that all these non-Christian objections are easily rebated by a well-formed Christian. So I don’t want to convince you of my idea, but I like to explain why more and more people is “losing faith” (in your point of view) or “looking for something less filled with guilt and more convincing” (in our point of view).

@Sarah: facts does not need “inspiration”. Historical facts are reported by historical people, documented and proven. Example: an historic reading the American Founding Fathers documents does not need any inspiration. Those are documented facts.
Also some parts of the bible are “documented facts”. And they are that way because have been “matched” with other documented historic information.
Some other parts, as theologists, the pope and the vast majority of Christians says, are metaphorically written to explain life on earth to uneducated people that were obviously not able to know or understand Big Bang.

If I ask you “how do you know that the bible has been inspired by God”, you’ll answer “because it’s written in the bible!”.

Then…you have to believe me because I always say the truth. And I always say the truth because I always say the truth.

Keep repeating same thing: faith is one thing. You want to believe? FINE! No problem for me. Just don’t try to use logic and/or science because they won’t fit.

So it wasn’t God’s intention for people to be “faulty”. We brought that on ourselves!

Regarding your points
1. faith/visibility. True and false. Obviously is something is “proven” no faith is necessary. But the logic does not make the contrary equally valid. If I believe in the flying spaghetti monster, does it makes it existent?
But I’m digressing and let’s stick to the point: “faith must be believed, if it’s proven, it’s not anymore faith”. This makes me argue: does God likes this hide-and-seek game? You believers like to think about miraculous healings, people healed from a terminate cancer. That’s faith (or “some scientific medical aspect not yet discovered”), but why God do not heal amputees? Becuase that will “prove it’s existence and he does not want that?”. This would makes sense: unfortunately we had Lourdes and Medjugorie Mother Mary appearances. Or the sacred Syndone. This is in contradiction.

2. Please consider my next sentence carefully, it’s expressed with total respect: do not validate Bible with the Bible itself. It’s just logically wrong. And it has nothing to with faith, it’s just plain logic.

3. Well, this is a point we non Christian dislikes. The fact that we have to recognize ourself “faulty by design”. A good God would have created us “correct”, not sinned.

Not that sure about the J. Edwards difference…is about Calvinism? Lutheranism?

I do not “contest” Christians. I believe in freedom of will and freedom of religion (unless it harms the others). I, however, am against ignorance and “blind” faith. If you shut off rationalism becacuse you have ONLY faith, that’s “wrong” in my idea.
After all, Earth should be flat by Bible’s words.